Moshe: now you can have a book study in your garage. did you look into the wts orange farm in FT. MYERS talking to your new jw friends about that is a killer. maybe Nathan Natas will come on and give you a few links about how the wts. used slave labor at that farm ,bought it for next to nothing, and sold it for MILLIONS to I think some jw developer. Happy new year. john
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The local KH gave me free chairs!
by moshe ini have noticed a slow-build kh going up next to the old kh in my city(almost done).
a few days ago i just drove into the parking lot and looked around- the brothers were outside, just getting their service groups together for the morning's field circus.
i noticed a stack of nice office chairs with armrests and the sign, "free" next to them.
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judge rutherFRAUD
hot stuff" was a forgotten hit from the 70's
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Changes after 1942 are new light from God or an apostasy by the Devil's influence?
by Andrew Derevyanko inthe scriptures and the physical facts clearly show that the work which bible students and jehovah's witnesses did from 1878 till 1942 are not just work of men charles taze russel and joseph franklin rutherford, who were chief servants in the visible part of jehovah's organization, but that such work is a product of god's spirit and in fulfilment of his prophecies written long ago through faithful men of old.. after the days of the apostles of christ jesus gross darkness covered those who were called christians and many began to practice religion or the traditions of men rather than the bible teachings.
then in 1878 till 1918 there was a work of preparing the way before jehovah's coming to the temple through his official representative christ jesus.
(malachi 3:1)such work was done to prepare before the lord a "people for his name" that such ones should be witnesses to his name and kingdom.
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didn't the jw's in Romania break away from the wt around 1942?
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Trying to remember a scripture about allowing men to interpret bible for us.
by wanderlustguy inthere is a scripture that basically says we shouldn't let men or a group of men interpret the bible for us... anybody remember what it is?.
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1 thes 5;21 , acts 17;11
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Trying to remember a scripture about allowing men to interpret bible for us.
by wanderlustguy inthere is a scripture that basically says we shouldn't let men or a group of men interpret the bible for us... anybody remember what it is?.
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try ps 146;3 hope that helps
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January 2009 Awake - Where is the quote source listed?
by AdaMakawee ini just took my dog out for a walk and found an awake laying on the ground, all wet where someone threw it.
so i picked it up because i thought it would be worth a few laughs.
i'm absolutely stunned by the amount of statements they make, statitstics they quote without naming a source.
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ADAMAKAWEE; good catch and it in most all wt mag's. and i use just this to make jw liars... a jw will give me a new mag and I ask have you tested everything in this mag to prove it's contents is truth? In most cases the jw will say they have read and know it to be truth.. then I pull out such a line in the mag that the L.A. TIMES ,NATIONAL GROGRAPH, DR SHITH ,PASTOR RUSSELL SAID IN A 1921 WT. SO AND SO. then i ask the jw did you look up that l.a. times article? or that 1921 wt? they will say no then I ask them "you just told me you tested everything in this mag"? so your a liar and a false witness in the name of jehovah, you know the bible say prove all thing true... I can take this on for hours and embarrass the jw's again great observation.
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RED ALERT!! RED ALERT!! Meteorite shower tomorrow night!!!
by ziddina in[blast!
can't make the title 'red'...].
from sky and telescope, online version: "this year the moon will be nearly new when the geminids peak on the night of december 13-14. the shower's radiant, the point in the sky from which they all seem to originate, is near castor and pollux.
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I love a nice meteorite shower , I fact I saw one once (shooting star) and made a wish. IN fact there was a meteorite shower in the year 1829 and RUSSELL SAID IN STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES that was proof of the time of the end and the forfullment of the verse that says the stars will fall from the SKY...
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Jehovahs Witnesses are banned in Russia
by Quadraphoenix inhttp://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=1385.
this is very exciting news for all of us, especially for the ones that want to leave that are in russia.. .
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metaron hit the nail on the head. getting banned in russia will not help the wts gain members there or anywhere else I've been saying here for years that the russians banning the wts there was a great idea, and I took a lot of heat for it. and education of the public while you let the wts ply their trade will not be effective or cost effective. there will always be jw's in russia but the wts is out of BUSINESS THERE and that's what pisses the gb off.
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Ex-JWs, How Many People Have Left the WTBTS Due To Your Efforts?
by ziddina inand, while we're at it, what did you feel was the best technique/were the best techniques for 'awakening' jws to the problems/threats within the wtbts??.
i was initially awakened by the realization that the bible writers had no clue about how the earth really worked - which meant that their god had no clue, either.
when exodus 19: 16-19 was read in the kh, i realized (as a young child, 7 or 8 if i remember correctly...) that those bible verses were describing a volcanic eruption - and the isra-el-ites - and their 'god' - were totally clueless as to the true nature of that eruption and mountain.... that was my first eye-opener... then there was the fellow - a householder - who said to me when i was a cute kid at the door helping 'spread the word', "those people are using you!".
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ziddina ; good topic I recall it was the may 15 or aug 15 1968 wt that said along with others that told us young kids to forgo college and become carpenters, toilet bowl cleaners, and shit shovelers. because we would never grow old enough in this system to recieve the fruits of education. or retirement. they were even saying that the war in vietman was the start of armageddom. with the U.S.S.R. being the king of the north and taking over the united states and britian. what a load of crap.
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Ziddina; wants to know how many jw's I have talked into leaving the wts
by judge rutherFRAUD inziddina: good question.
as i was never a baptised jw over the last 40 years and have had limited contact with them outside of working the streets etc.
in the last 12 years.
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Ziddina: good question. as I was never a baptised jw over the last 40 years and have had limited contact with them outside of working the streets etc. in the last 12 years. I would say I know one old time elder that left after years talking to him . but i can't take credit, and i know about 90% of the kids i went to the hall with 40 years ago are no longer jw's . but again I take no credit. i know an other P.O. that I have had years of arguements with that stopped being an elder and moved to kansas. again I take no credit. I was talking with some bethel elder about 6 years ago for a few months and all he wanted to talk about the the watchtower involvement with the UNITED NATIONS. seemed that the wts being member of the U.N. REALLY PISSED THIS bethelite off. have no idea what happened to him . I can say for sure that some of the old time jw;s I grew up with will not talk to their kids just based in the fact that their kids still talk to me and that their parents lie to them today what was being taught about 1975 and the generation of 1914 when we were kids. did I make any if these kids from my local hall leave NO . but when we talk about old stories about 1975 and how our jw parents now lie about it today it makes family relations worst. as I have heard from the grape vine. again I have no count and from about 10 jw family members only have one today. AND I take no credit. they all left years ago. and i have 6 brother and sisters about 20 cousins, and about 12 neices all indoctronated into the wts. and non of them will ever become jw's or even let my dad preach to them thanks to me. in fact 2 of my brother and one sister are active apostates. taking it to jw's in the streets